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Not a problem APZE. I'll move it to a more objective venue from here. Cheers Brett

No, I focused most of my attention on .com's, and was late coming to the .pl ccTLD.

If they have little value, why are all of the good ones taken? Do your research, and you will be able to see this is a fact. evolution.pl boston.pl gold.pl silver.pl titan.pl coyote.pl silk.pl languageschool.pl price.pl orange.pl blue.pl green.pl house.pl worm.pl pacific.pl island.pl fortress.pl home.pl *** I could list 100,000 taken english domains here, but I think you get the point. Polish words are obviously worth more in most cases, but nevertheless, a lot of English words do have decent raw value, and certainly value from a SEO perspective as well. English words that are highly convertable to Polish are perfect for Polish companies with an international client base.

I appreciate you coming here to address the community's concerns on this, and I completely understand why you cannot comment on the specifics of my allegations against Mr. Dryzek. A complaint will certainly be filed. I do however believe you have an obligation to the domain community, and the general public at large, to confirm domain query hijacking is possible, and what steps your organization is doing to put a stop to it. When the Chesterton Holdings story broke on CNet.com, ICANN decided not to comment on the situtation any further, hundreds of domain query hijacking complaints were filed against Chesterton Holdings, and in the end Chesterton Holdings went deeper underground, and nothing was resolved. Obviously consumer trust in ICANN is at an all time low. I have tens of thousands of dollars invested in the .pl ccTLD alone. If I don't feel my complaint is being properly addressed by your organization, or if I get the impression you are biased towards my case, or even complicit in what Mr. Dryzek is doing, I will hit every domain forum and blog from Swahili to Japanese, and restate my case for a few million people to read about. I will also try to find a Polish language outlet where I can alert the general public to what Mr. Dryzek is doing. Shame on NASK for allowing something like this to happen! Shame on Mr. Dryzek, I will watch you like a hawk, and you will be eating your lies, mark my words my friend. A boycott isn't even the beginning.

Great, hopefully someone from NASK can explain how something like this is technically possible. Another domain just taken: lakewood.pl

Regardless, how is he getting access to the clusters? I'm testing it right now, running numerous queries, some mixed with good and bad gibberish domains. Seems he isn't using an automated script to reg the domains, because only good domains get picked up. Names like asskdhf.pl are not tasted. Anyone here heard of Chesterton Holdings. They plagued the .com, .net, and .org TLD's doing the same thing. The good thing with them though is it was automated tasting, and most domains got dropped 4 days later. Some how they got access to all query data. If you qeuried a domain like akjhdskashdkjahdk.com many times in a row, it would always get picked up by Chesterton Holdings. Now they changed their name to many different companies, so it's harder to tell who it is. I encourage anyone here to do a test for themselves. Find good available .pl's, then query them many times in a row. You will see all the good ones get picked up. Try it out. Moniker.com is good for queries [you can do 500 .pl domains at once]. Just got another picked up right now: siege.pl Ah, now comes daniel again to tell us all he doesn't own them, and he doesn't taste domains either. All more stuff from my imagination. Hey Daniel, let me know if you are going to drop the domains, I want to register some of them! I think some of the ones I am querying now, you will not be able to resist keeping. Maybe you want to hire me as a domain researcher, what do you pay per hour? One more gone, maybe I mentioned it already: tommygun.pl You took this domain from me last week Daniel, everyone here can see the whois info: indianapolis.pl Gotta say, kinda of pissed off about that one. You didn't take houston.pl from me, I never queried that older one, but that's how I figured out it was you doing it using it as reference. If you think about having the thread deleted, we can move the discussion right over to the DNForum, where I know the mods will keep it active. Or maybe NamePros if you perfer. What about this one: legacy.pl

I own hundreds of .pl domains, I'm well aware of the 14 day grace period. Tell me though, who owns this domain: houston.pl Hmmm... same parking page as all domains booked from the same query cluster I did, literature.pl, diplomat.pl, lance.pl, village.pl, cities.pl. I guess all these coincidences are just illusions in my own mind. Daniel will of course use an alias now if the domains go through the grace period, but that is the cost of exposure. I waiting for the reply from Icered, these are generic parking pages anyone could have, doesn't mean anything. Hehe... I got more info for the reply. Another just taken right now: nook.pl

Doing this doesn't take huge connections man! All it takes is access to the .pl registry query data, this information is saved, and obviously made accessible through back door means. Anyone who works for a Polish registrar could get access to this data. I'll be interested to see if he's holding all domains, or tasting them for traffic and then dropping some.

Come on Daniel, humor us a little. We all know that all .pl queries are sent through the central Polish registry itself, moniker and home.pl are pulling data from that registry. Now, you work for ACTIVE 24, correct? Are you going to sit here and actually pretend that you don't know how any of this works? Yeah, no reponse, that's what I thought. I will send a small data presentation to NASK about this. Obviously they will do nothing, but the whole point of this was to raise public awareness about the issue. Now it will be in the backs of peoples minds to a small degree. Know that what you are doing is hurting the internet, and the domain industry itself. If the general public loses faith in the domain industry because of hijacked query data, anyone with domain investments will "LOSE" in that situation. It could mean more rules, regulations, government oversight, you get the idea. Grow some ethics dude!

He's taking most of the domains I query. It's mathematically impossible to achieve, without being able to access the query lists themselves. Only a fool would think otherwise. You work for ACTIVE 24, correct Daniel?

Why would I lie, for humor's sake? That's pointless. Here's 5 just taken in a repeat query cluster, let's see what the whois data resolves to, shall we Daniel. literature.pl diplomat.pl lance.pl village.pl cities.pl

Is that the best excuse you can come up with? We all know that the moniker and home.pl queries are being pulled from the same data pool. And it's that data pool that is providing you with query lists to mine. Don't pretend this is a phenomenon, it's happening in every ccTLD, and everyone knows it. If you have clean hands, and are not afraid to lay your cards on the table, let us have a look at a few of your parked .pl domains? Remember, you have nothing to lose because you are innocent... also, you know Ed from NameDrive right?

I'm putting together the proof, so please wait on that. In the mean time, how can I be quicker then you, when you have access to my query lists? Don't spew propaganda, give us a bit of insight as to how you are doing this.

Hehe, Daniel isn't replying because he's running around changing his whois info at the moment!

My friend, these are just hypothetical examples. Don't expect Daniel to tell the truth about this. I have only a theory about how he accesses the data, so it's easy for him to deny, as only he know the exact procedure. Maybe next time he will be smart enough to register the domains in a alias? Be warned, if you find a .pl domain you like, register that second or he might take it from you.